Showing posts with label NPT. Show all posts
Showing posts with label NPT. Show all posts

Sunday, March 8, 2015

A man attempted to make his own hard line, YOU WON'T BELIEVE HAPPENED NEXT!

My God, it's full of fuel!

I ditched the boxing analogy for a hilarious click-bait title.  I see these types of things shared on Facebook more than I can count.  For some reason, I refuse to click on those articles out of some stubborn defiance.   Sadly for me, that probably means I won't see: dogs seeing their military owners come home, dancing skeletons, some sort of act of scripted kindness, probably some video with racist contextual overtones and other super fun political stuff.  Darn!!!!

Anyway, A few nights ago, I decided to get all that fuel line bent, connected and fired the beast up.... Fuel squired all across the front of the engine from an unknown origin.  It went EVERYWHERE.




After frantically disconnecting the battery and cleaning up my mess, I discovered that I missed tightening up a fitting.  After spilling more fuel, I found that the AN-to-NPT fitting to the fuel inlet line (the black thing to the silver thing) was ill-fitting and did not create a seal.  So I tightened it further!!  When in doubt, crank it out!

To test this:

  1. Disconnect coil wire (not the lead but just the power feed). This prevents the engine from actually starting.
  2. Turn the key, let it turn over a few times to get some gas pumped into the line.
  3. Observe leak become even worse....
  4. Become super high off of gas fumes. (Just joking...I think)


So after yet ANOTHER run to Summit Racing, I armed myself with a Summit Line kit that feeds directly to the Carburetor.  With nice and fresh threading, not ruined by my touch.  Then connecting to that is an -6AN-to-3/8 NPT fitting.  Interesting to note...it was used. There was gunk in the threading that I cleaned out with a pipe cleaner.  Huh.  Moving on....

Drum roll...and pigeons
After tightening everything up, I turn her over; the leak disappeared and I had solid fuel pressure! Wooooo! Mission Accomplished!
Also, the gas fumes made me chase a pigeon away from my bird feeder, making me look like the crazy bird guy on my block.  I HATE pigeons.  I hate Doves second.  They are basically the upper class of the pigeon world.  I'm pigeonist.   I'll take a kickass scrub-jay any day.  Or a rockin black bird.

Back on track;
So here are a few pictures of the line setup starting from the Carb.

Edelbrock 1411 Carburetor to Summit Fuel Line Inlet
That golden bell like thing is a fuel pressure sender. I had to bend the summit fuel line outwards to get it to fit underneath that carb choke.

From there, 3/8 hard line, bent around to the front of the engine.
That black rigid stuff is some heat shielding to prevent it from touching the block directly.

-6AN inline fuel filter with two -6AN to Tube adapter connecting it from the 3/8 hard line.

Then it wraps around behind the coil and down into the gas pump.  Sheathed in more heat shielding
It connects to the stock gas pump using -6AN to 5/8''-18o-ring.

Another shot from the passenger side.

So in conclusion, here are the parts list for this entire setup:
Fuel Line Setup:
My Specs:


No more degrading rubber.

You may ask why I was so insistent on moving away from rubber.  Look for yourself.  Below is from my previous inline fuel filter setup with a full rubber line coming from the pump.

That black stuff? That's rubber from a brand new O'Reilly Auto's fuel rated hose.  This happened with several rounds of rubber tubing.  



Maybe those mechanics were right when talking about the ethanol in our gas.  Or maybe it could be my leaky exhaust baking the living hell out of anything that will melt within its radius.  Or both!

Into the future

Anyway, next week will probably be centered around the start of the 466 build!  My friend / El Hefe is rad and is letting me post up in his shop/man-cave to build up this engine.  So expect lots of pictures and progress reports coming in regards to that.

Until next week.

Sunday, March 1, 2015

Boxing Match: Fuel Line Edition - Round One

Round One: Initial Part and Design - FIGHT!

This week I learned that there is such thing as -AN to Tube fittings using the ol' compression sleeve design.  And since all after market tubing and fuel filters are in AN (reasonable priced anyway), this makes my life a million times easier.  (Thanks Mick).

So, in this corner,in black and silver:
  • 4 -6AN to 3/8 Tube fittings
  • 1 -6AN inline fuel filter
  • 1 90 degree, -6AN to 3/8 NPT (to my stock replacement Fuel pump)
  • 25' of stainless steel, bendable fuel hard line!

Mike comes out swinging!

Fight plan:   90 degree fitting from the pump, tubing that routes around the front of the engine, fuel filter in front of the fan, and then route the tube around to the carb!


First thing to do?  Go to my fuel pump and put that 90 degree fitting in!  It should fit, after all, it's 3/8 in and 3/8 out on that pump....right......right guys???   FRIGGIN-NOPE!

Mike takes a direct hit! 

**$&*%#@*!!!!
Okay, if I would have searched a bit harder and actually MEASURED the old hard line, here is what is actually coming out of the pump:  It's 3/8 line going IN to the pump.....buuuuuuuuut it is 1/4 line going OUT of the pump.  

(BY THE WAY, I ONLY FOUND THIS OUT BY SOME RANDOM AD ON EBAY *rage*)

To be specific: The line is 1/4 and the fitting is 1/2-20.  So yeah.  I confirmed this by measuring my existing hard line and removing the inverted flare fitting.  Time to go back to Summit armed with this new found information.  *queue 1 hour music, driving and lunch interlude*

Also, These measurements mean nothing to me.  NPT, inverted flare and AN are all magical numbers that are based on either internal diameter, external or the phase of the moon.  Hopefully the Summit guy knows something.

I get to Summit, show the dude the fitting and ask him if I could get a 90 degree fitting to -6AN.   And.........Poof.  He found what I needed...(I think?)

One last thing before I go: Forgetting that NPT size is the diameter of the PIPE, not thread, I order this just to make sure I had EVERYTHING.   *cough*  So Yeah, if anyone needs one of these for a tractor or rocket ship, I got one for you.

Back to the fight!

The fitting is snug and ready to rumble. Rad.  (Insert picture here...)

Okay, so I find out  early on that my pipe bender is janky.  The bender part falls off its axle.  Also, I find out that I suck at bending.  I'm making small kinks here and there.   So, on the ever amazing Internet, I read that if you fill the tubing with sugar and pack it, it helps prevent kinks.   Well, I think it worked...

Mike takes another hit!  

Anyway, I take some coat hanger and bend to it the route I think I want.  Before I start tube stuff, run into another snag;  The carb fitting with my fuel pressure sender doesn't fit in the direction I need it to go.   UGH

It's hard to see up there with my amazing picture taking abilities but what you see is a banjo nut, L-pipe pointing towards the front of my engine with a big, gold bell-like fuel pressure sender at the end.  It is being blocked by my carburetor's electric choke.  I seriously contemplated taking the dang thing off but I got a better, more destructive idea:  I place that L-piece in a vice and slightly bent it outwards.  BAM. It fits perfectly. 

[Insert awesome picture of it fitting here]
(DANG IT, I keep forgetting to take more pictures, I'll get better I swear)

With that solved, time to start bending some tube. 

DING DING DING - End of Round 1.

After bending the first section, I eagerly place the new Tube-to-AN fitting on and tighten it, locking it forever in place on the pipe.   Yes, looks great....except now that I start planning the rest of the bends, I realize that the route I originally planned will NOT work.

So, I redesign  the layout. (click to make bigger!)


Results:

Bruised from a beating to my pride again, I came out armed with more knowledge. (Yay...knowledge...)

I'll flesh this plan out a bit more and try attacking it next weekend.  Of course I'll post the results and try to take more pictures of my progress.

BONUS ROUND:

Everything is ready to be picked up at the machine shop!  Pistons were assembled to the rods, the 46(6) block is ready to be built, and the crankshaft is in great condition!  Time to start working on that as well!

Until next time!